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- Usenet Mac Digest Saturday, April 16, 1988 Volume 4 : Issue 52
-
- Today's Topics:
- Claris MacWrite 5.0
- Problems I have seen
- Re: Pacer vs. Alisa (A Tale of Two VAX-Mac Systems)
- Re: Problems I have seen
- Home finance software
- Re: : Mac desktop publishing, etc.
- E-mail Mac/Mainframe
- carrying case for Mac Plus (2 messages)
- OpenResFile and high byte
- custom MDEF vs. MenuKey
- 4D programming question
- Opening Working Directories
- Re: OpenResFile and high byte
- Re: custom MDEF vs. MenuKey
- HD's for AUx
- Laser IISC
- Re: Farallon MacRecorder
- Streamlining the System File
- Ending a DA
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: LIPA@POLYA.STANFORD.EDU (William J. Lipa)
- Subject: Claris MacWrite 5.0
- Date: 13 Apr 88 04:08:49 GMT
-
- I have been using the new MacWrite ever since I got the upgrade last
- week, and I have to say that there are many frustrating things about it
- compared to Apple's MacWrite 4.6.
-
- Although the spell checker provides much-needed power, it is poorly
- integrated into MacWrite as a whole. When you check your document, a
- truly amazing display of windows resizing, text selecting, and things
- opening and closing unfolds before you. While not inconvenient in
- itself, the changing display is annoying and an indication of a poorly
- designed product. Additionally, the spell checking window is a modal
- dialog even though it appears to be a modeless dialog. The modality is
- frustrating, especially since windows with similar functions (ie the
- find window) are modeless.
-
- MacWrite still can die with a system error when you move the insertion
- point with the left and right arrows and then select undo.
-
- Many of the keyboard equivalents have been changed, especially in the
- Style menu. This again is a violation of the User Interface Guidelines.
- I find it annoying to not have a keyboard equivalent for superscript and
- subscript as I used to.
-
- The program puts up a dialog with your name and organization at the
- start. I don't mind this in itself; what really gets me is that there
- seems to be a DELAY so that you can read this window. I don't need extra
- delays in my life; Claris shouldn't give them to me. Why don't they just
- put up the licence window while they do the initialization?
- Initialization certainly takes long enough.
-
- MacWrite is more than twice as large even without the dictionary files.
- I can't believe the code for the spell checker is 100K, and I can't see
- any other major enhancements.
-
- Still has the left margin of one inch, etc., etc...
-
- Oh well, I still like it better than Word, but not much.
- --
- Bill Lipa
- lipa%polya@forsythe.stanford.edu
- -------
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: jimd@gssc.UUCP (Jim DePorter)
- Subject: Problems I have seen
- Date: 13 Apr 88 00:42:29 GMT
- Organization: Graphic Software Systems, Bvtn OR
-
- I am 'helping' take care of a business that just purchased 3 mac SE-20s,
- LaserWriter NT, 2.5MB per machine, a single page Radius and a two page
- Radius. The systems are using Multifinder, TOPS and either WriteNow
- and/or Excel.
- Problem one is that this is an appraisal firm and they print out 50-100
- page documents, but after about 15 pages the printing stops, the light
- on the NT keeps flashing for ? amount of time and then a timeout error
- appears on the screen (the file is still there, would you like to
- reprint?). All I hear about is how great the Victor 9000 running
- Wordperfect is, and how it can print ALL of the pages and even let you
- keep typing at the same time (problem two). I know there is some
- problems running WriteNow under Multifinder, but if I disable TOPS the
- 55 page test document prints out fine. Any answers?
- Problem two, they wanted a print spooler. Great, instead of spending
- $120 a copy for Super Laser Spool I would get printmonitor working under
- multifinder. Great, the only problem is that when the job is being sent
- to the printer neither mouse nor keyboard input shows up until the page
- finishes, not good. How about Super Laser Spool, it's only $120 a copy
- and if it does transparent spooling it's worth it. Gosh, it doesn't
- work with Multifinder. Bad, the users now can not live without
- Multifinder. Try work around, start system with finder and Super Laser
- Spool, Cmd option double click on Multifinder. Works fine until printing
- starts and then "GREAT SHIMMERING RECTANGLES" the system hangs. What
- fun. And to think I told them that the Mac would be easier than an
- MSdos machine to get operational. Everyone there loves the Mac (I'm not
- always sure if I do 8-)), but these small problems are the worst.
- Oh yes, I tried calling TOPS Talk (415-549-5955), but their machine
- must be having troubles also, as nothing answers.
- --
- Thanks,
- jimd
- tektronix!sequent!gssc!jimd
-
- "We now have a solution to every problem,
- we now need a resolution of our solutions!"
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: garrett@udel.EDU (Joel Garrett)
- Subject: Re: Pacer vs. Alisa (A Tale of Two VAX-Mac Systems)
- Date: 13 Apr 88 14:18:07 GMT
- Organization: University of Delaware
-
- In article <11134@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> lui@CS.UCLA.EDU (Stephen Lui)
- writes:
- >We are connecting our VAXes to our Macintoshes through the very popular
- >Kinetics FastPath gateway box. I'm comparing the two popular software
- >packages made by Alisa Systems and Pacer.
-
- I'm in the process of doing the same thing for my employer.
-
- >Does anyone have any comments about either system?
-
- I've only had a chance to dig into AlisaTalk so far, as I am still
- waiting for a PacerShare beta tape (yes, it's an announced product, but
- it's still in beta, I guess that's come to be the norm)
-
- I ran into a few problems getting both packages to run at first
- (partially due to incomplete installation instructions, partially due to
- voodoo system problems)
-
- One note to users of Wollongong WIN/TCP who want to get AlisaTalk or
- PacerLink:
-
- If you are using the dedicated DEUNA driver for WIN/TCP, you're going to
- need to call Wollongong and tell them you need to use the shared
- DEUNA/DEQNA driver. This isn't a big deal, all you need to do is get a
- new key from TWG, which they'll read you over the phone, and then
- re-link the inet stuff to include the shared DEUNA driver. After this,
- just edit your startinet.com file and the syconfig.com file and you're
- all set - For the dedicated deuna driver, sysgen leaves out the XE
- driver while autoconfiguring the system at boot time and both AlisaTalk
- and PacerLink need this.
-
- Before I got this driver change from Wollongong, I tried installing
- AlisaTalk with WIN/TCP not running. For some reason the appletalk/vms
- bridge process was unable to get the deuna's ethernet address and
- therefore was responding to AppleTalk ARPs by saying "My ethernet
- address is FF.FF.FF.FF.FF.FF," which is an ethernet broadcast address -
- not good. This caused on the order of about 10-20 ethernet broadcast
- packets per second to flood the net while I was using the AlisaTalk file
- server. Once I had the shared DEUNA WIN/TCP up and running this problem
- mysteriously went away.
-
- Both Alisa and Pacer provide printer spooling software that takes
- advantage of VMS queuing services, AlisaPrint and PacerPrint. Alisa
- also provides a DEC printing package that will allow Mac users to access
- the LPS-40 and the LN03-R. I haven't dug much into that package, as we
- don't have any DEC printers at our site. I do know that the LPS-40
- supports most of the things that a LaserWriter can do (not including
- smoothing though, apple handles that with 68000 code embedded in the
- postscript - or so I hear)
-
- The one big difference I see between the two printing systems is how
- they handle LaserWriters or other LocalTalk-connected printers.
- AlisaPrint allows you to leave your printers out on the LocalTalk net
- where they can still be accessible to Mac users if the VAX should crash
- or have to be shut down for PM, etc. PacerPrint requires that the
- LaserWriters be connected directly to the VAX with serial connections.
- Granted, this solution probably yields the best performance, but you
- lose a little flexibility in where you can connect your printers.
-
- As far as overall performance is concerned, Alisa's stuff seems to be a
- little slower than Pacer's (all results aren't in, this test isn't
- complete) which might be attributed to the way they implement their
- system, which appears more flexible.
-
- That's about all I've gotten so far - once AppleShare compatiblity is
- available for both systems which should be in the near future (but how
- near? :-) the file servers for both systems will be greatly improved.
-
- Joel Garrett
- Research Associate
- CCM
- University of Delaware
- Newark, De 19716
-
- garrett@udel-ccm.arpa
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: hpoppe@scdpyr.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe)
- Subject: Re: Problems I have seen
- Date: 13 Apr 88 14:54:17 GMT
- Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
-
- Jim DePorter mentions in is posting:
-
- > Oh yes, I tried calling TOPS Talk (415-549-5955), but their
- >machine must be having troubles also, as nothing answers.
-
- All the TOPS phone numbers changed effective March 28:
-
- Main line (415) 769-9669 Sales (415) 769-8700 Tech
- Services (415) 769-8711 Upgrade line (4150 769-8808 FAX
- (415) 769-8772 TOPS Talk (415) 769-8774 Herb Poppe NCAR
- INTERNET: hpoppe@scdpyr.UCAR.EDU (303) 497-1296 P.O.
- Box 3000 CSNET: hpoppe@ncar.CSNET
- Boulder, CO 80307 UUCP: hpoppe@scdpyr.UUCP
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: petel@THEORY.CS.CMU.EDU (Peter Lee)
- Subject: Home finance software
- Date: 13 Apr 88 14:50:43 GMT
- Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI
-
- I haven't been reading this newsgroup for a while, so please excuse me
- if this has already been discussed...
-
- I'm looking for a good home-financial-planning/management program for a
- MacII.
-
- In addition to normal budgeting, I would like to use it to plan the sale
- of one house and the purchase of a new one, and also to manage a
- moderate number of investments.
-
- Any reports of your experiences with financial planning software would
- be greatly appreciated!
-
- Peter Lee
- (412) 268-3049
- Peter.Lee@cs.cmu.edu
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: paul@ardent.UUCP (Paul Ausick)
- Subject: Re: : Mac desktop publishing, etc.
- Date: 13 Apr 88 15:23:30 GMT
- Organization: Dana Computer, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA
-
- >
- > Is there any interest at all in this group in discussing the merits/demerits
- > of various desktop publishing utilities specifically as they relate to the
- > Macintosh? ...
-
- I'm interested. In particular, I'd like to get some ideas/help about
- scanning images. We just bought a DEST PC Scan 2000, a 300 dpi, 256
- grey- level scanner and I'd like some tips on getting the best results
- from it. I've only made a few scans, but the machine seems to work well.
- What I'd like to know, specifically, is how to adjust the settings on
- the scanner to get the best quality "halftone" output. I'll be scanning
- photos of our machine and I want to drop them into some documentation
- we're doing. How do I get the best results? What are some of the things
- I should be aware of? Any help will be gratefully received.
-
- Thanks.
- --
- /Paul Ausick
- Ardent Computer Corporation
- 880 Maude Ave. uucp: uunet!ardent!paul
- Sunnyvale, CA 94086 408/732-0400
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: alex@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Alex Heatley)
- Subject: E-mail Mac/Mainframe
- Date: 12 Apr 88 00:42:02 GMT
- Organization: Computing Serv. Ctr, Victoria Uni., Wellington, New Zealand
-
- Greetings,
- I am looking for a mail system for the Macintosh that can be
- interfaced to our mainframe mail system.
-
- The problem I am trying to solve is: We have a number of users who have
- moved almost all their work from our mainframe computers to Macintosh
- applications, this means that they are using the mainframes infrequently
- and thus, are not receiving their e-mail in a timely manner.
-
- What I want to do is build some sort of gateway between the mainframe
- mail systems and a Mac based mail system so that these users will be
- able to send and receive mail without having to log onto the mainframes.
-
- As we currently run a LaserWriter Spooler from one of our UN*X boxes
- (using the CAP software and a K-Box) I'm leaning towards writing some
- sort of mail server that sits on a UN*X box and speaks via AppleTalk to
- the Mac mail system.
-
- Does anyone out there have any ideas, or can suggest a suitable mail
- system that I could use for this application?
-
- Please e-mail your responses to the address given in the signature, I'll
- summarise to the net if there is sufficient interest.
-
- Thanks
- --
- Alex Heatley: Computing Services Centre
- Domain: alex@comp.vuw.ac.nz Victoria University of Wellington
- Path: ...!uunet!vuwcomp!alex P.O Box 600, New Zealand
- Trolls can often be found under bridges ... or in Computing Departments.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: jsanders@topaz.rutgers.edu (jill sanders)
- Subject: carrying case for Mac Plus
- Date: 13 Apr 88 23:43:52 GMT
- Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
-
-
- I'm interested in getting a carrying case for my Mac Plus. By looking
- through various magazines I have noticed that there are a few different
- ones. I am interested in which one is the most durable and reasonably
- priced.
-
- Thank You,
-
- Jill Sanders
-
- jsanders@topaz.rutgers.edu (arpa)
- rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!jsanders (UUCP)
-
- snail mail: LPO 10166 CN 5064 phone: 201-846-2461
- New Brunswick, NJ 08903
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: fleishman-glenn@CS.YALE.EDU (Glenn Fleishman)
- Subject: Re: carrying case for Mac Plus
- Date: 14 Apr 88 04:32:39 GMT
- Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept, New Haven CT 06520-2158
-
- My Mac Plus carrying case is from a company called ComputerAid. (No
- other id is on the case, and I ordered through a distributor.) It cost
- about $60-70 and has passed several tests:
- 1. It itself is light
- 2. It's reinforced cardboard on the sides; lightweight, but fairly
- rugged.
- 3. It's not an ugly color
- 4. It fits perfectly under any airplane seat -- including (get this)
- those horrible Stretch 727's where the seat space is virtually nil
- (caveat: it fits under the middle or right seats on the right side, and
- vice versa, not under the aisle seats.) In other planes there's plenty
- of room. Number 4 should be true of any case, but is a definite
- consideration for my thousands of miles per year, and Apple Co. itself,
- when called, declared itself unaware of whether it would actually fit
- under an airplane seat (the Mac Plus that is. True story).
- --
- Glenn I. Fleishman, graphic designer & Mac apologist
- FLEGLEI@YALEVM.BITNET or to above address
- "What? Why did you say that? What do you know about my IMAGE DUPLICATOR?"
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (David Phillip Oster)
- Subject: OpenResFile and high byte
- Date: 13 Apr 88 16:47:46 GMT
- Organization: School of Education, UC-Berkeley
-
- Recently, there was a discussion on Delphi about OpenResFile(), and the
- necessity of clearing the high byte of the pointer you pass to it. The
- correct way of doing this is:
-
- do a SysEnvirons(). If you are running on a 512KE or greater, and are
- under System 4.1 or greater, then do a StripAddress() system call to
- strip off the flags and get a pure address.
-
- If you are on some other configuration, just clear the byte. This will
- help your code keep working when apple goes to a true 32-bit address
- environment, or if you want to port to A/UX.
-
- --------- Getting the address of video memory: Remember that a MacII can
- have multiple display adapters installed. To find the address of their
- screen memeories, you must scan down the list of graphic devices. See
- the graphic devices chapter of Inside Macintosh Vol. 5.
-
- Writing directly into video memory will certainly cause you problems:
- Stars 1.8 does it, and I have not upgraded it since color quickdraw came
- out, so it only works right in 1-bit per pixel mode. (The fade-to-black
- and the drawing of the small stars are done with direct video memory
- access.) I haven't released an up updated version, because there are a
- lot of things I want to put in. I may just do a simple bug-fix release
- in the interim though.
- --
- --- David Phillip Oster --When you asked me to live in sin with you
- Arpa: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu --I didn't know you meant sloth.
- Uucp: {uwvax,decvax,ihnp4}!ucbvax!oster%dewey.soe.berkeley.edu
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: brian@natinst.UUCP (Brian H. Powell)
- Subject: custom MDEF vs. MenuKey
- Date: 13 Apr 88 21:02:00 GMT
- Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
-
-
- We're working on a program with some custom menus. (Actually, some
- are custom, some are normal.)
- In Inside Mac Volume I, it says "For menus of your own definition,
- you may set up the data defining the menu items any way you like..."
- That's what we've done. Our MENU resource data is substantially
- different (after the first few standard header bytes) from a regular
- MENU.
- If you look at one of the custom MENUs with ResEdit, you get lots
- of gibberish. In particular, the standard MENU template shows that an
- "N" appears in the MenuKey equivalent box. Herein lies the problem.
- We have a situation where "New" (normally cmd-N) is grayed out.
- Further down the menu bar is our custom menu. MenuKey returns the
- custom menu's ID if "New" is grayed out.
-
- The bug is that MenuKey doesn't notice that we have specified a
- different menu defproc for that menu, so it looks at our custom data for
- a menu key equivalent. There just happens to be an "N" in that
- location, so it decides that that's what we want.
- This does strange things to our program.
- Ideally, there should be another message that can be sent to an
- MDEF that can figure out Menu Keys.
-
- An even worse bug in MenuKey appeared because of this. The custom
- menu I mentioned above is really a hierarchical menu that's one step off
- the top-level menus. (i.e., if you click on the menu bar, you won't see
- our custom menu, but if you go down and select the proper menu item,
- it'll appear (hierarchically) to the side.) There are situations where
- both "New" and the menu parenting the custom menu are grayed out.
- MenuKey still returns the ID of the custom menu.
- This is completely different from using the mouse; if you click on
- the grayed out parent of a hierarchical menu, you don't see the child
- menu. It doesn't seem like MenuKey should be able to go any further
- past the grayed out parent either.
- Does this mean that if you want to completely disable a
- hierarchical menu, you not only have to disable the parent, but you have
- to disable all of the children as well?
-
- Brian H. Powell National Instruments Corp.
- brian@natinst.uucp 12109 Technology Blvd.
- ut-sally!im4u!natinst!brian Austin, Texas 78727-6204
- (512) 250-9119 x832
-
- or if that doesn't work, you can use brian@sally.utexas.edu.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: yvw@gmdzi.UUCP (Yvo Van Wezemael)
- Subject: 4D programming question
- Date: 12 Apr 88 11:55:49 GMT
- Organization: Forte Research Group
-
- In the procedure window portion of the procedure editor a command MERGE
- SELECTION is mentioned as built-in command. Yet there is no description
- of this command in the manual(s). So the question is clear:
-
- * What is the syntax of this command and what is it's
- functionality?
-
- Thanks for help
- Yvo Van Wezemael
- --
- Yvo Van Wezemael (yvo@L2):
- Postfach 1240 (Schloss Birlinghoven)
- D-5205 Sankt Augustin 1
- seismo!...unido!gmdzi!yvw.UUCP
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: tomc@mntgfx.mentor.com (Tom Carstensen)
- Subject: Opening Working Directories
- Date: 13 Apr 88 18:50:40 GMT
- Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation, Beaverton Oregon
-
- How many working directories can be opened? If it is limited, what
- happens after you've opened a file up, got a working directory reference
- number to access that file, and then you close that working directory.
- It that reference number no longer valid. If so, what can you do if
- OpenWD returns too many working dirs?
-
- I can't just go closing that last one I opened, it may have a file in
- it that I opened.
- --
- :------------------------------------------------------------:
- : Tom Carstensen Usenet: tomc@mntgfx.MENTOR.COM :
- : Mentor Graphics Delphi: CARSTENSEN :
- : GEnie: XPC23637 :
- : :
- : . . . AAhh! I see you have a machine that goes PING! :
- : - Monty Python :
- :------------------------------------------------------------:
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein)
- Subject: Re: OpenResFile and high byte
- Date: 14 Apr 88 00:05:56 GMT
- Organization: Advanced Technology Group, Apple Computer
-
- If you are using MPW, StripAddress is implemented by glue code that
- checks for the existence of the trap, and cals it if it exists.
- Otherwise it does the stripping itself. Therefore, you can call
- StripAddress regardless of the machine you are running on.
-
- --
- Larry Rosenstein, Object Specialist
- Apple Computer, Inc. 20525 Mariani Ave, MS 27-AJ Cupertino, CA 95014
- AppleLink:Rosenstein1 domain:lsr@Apple.COM
- UUCP:{sun,voder,nsc,decwrl}!apple!lsr
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (David Phillip Oster)
- Subject: Re: custom MDEF vs. MenuKey
- Date: 14 Apr 88 05:56:26 GMT
- Organization: School of Education, UC-Berkeley
-
- I hope Apple leaves things mostly the way they are. I've been writing
- custom menu definition routines for a long time, and I always leave the
- standard data structures specifically so I can use all the standard
- routines like SetCheckItem() in my custom menus. It would break a lot
- of existing programs if Apple suddenly stopped scanning my menus just
- because they have a custom MDEF.
- --
- --- David Phillip Oster --When you asked me to live in sin with you
- Arpa: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu --I didn't know you meant sloth.
- Uucp: {uwvax,decvax,ihnp4}!ucbvax!oster%dewey.soe.berkeley.edu
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: nfong@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Norman Fong)
- Subject: HD's for AUx
- Date: 14 Apr 88 05:31:28 GMT
- Organization: University of California, Berkeley
-
- Also like to point out that the hammer series from FWB, Inc. is fully
- compatible with AUX. The 300 Meg external can transfer data at over 1.1
- Meg/s sustained under MacOS, sort of wasted with the current set of
- drivers..
- --
- nfong@cory.Berkeley.EDU
- Claimer: I work for FWB, so my views are skewed to the max!
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: richard@telesoft.UUCP (Richard S. Kaufmann @spot)
- Subject: Laser IISC
- Date: 14 Apr 88 17:16:02 GMT
- Organization: TeleSoft Inc., San Diego, CA
-
- What do y'all think of the idea of building a postscript emulator for
- the IISC? Imagine the following system:
-
- Mac II
- 5 or 8 MB of RAM
- Laser IISC
-
- Since the IISC connects to the Mac via SCSI, it would seem practical to
- build the postscript processor on the Mac, downloading bitmaps to the
- printer. Since the retail price differential between the IISC and IINT
- is $2000, there would seem to be a pretty tasty niche for a
- software-only product.
-
- I suspect that the configuration above would be faster than an NT, and
- would only lack networking.
- --
- -- Richard Kaufmann
- -- c/o TeleSoft
- -- ..!ucsd!telesoft!richard
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: David_Greg_Herlihy@cup.portal.com
- Subject: Re: Farallon MacRecorder
- Date: 13 Apr 88 23:32:33 GMT
- Organization: The Portal System (TM)
-
- Just to add to the above: I meant to write "impressive." I do think the
- manual could have been a little more technically-oriented, especially in
- using the sounds as the sound records described in Inside Macintosh Vol
- II. I realize you can use snd resouces these days, but earlier machines
- don't seem to recognize them. I simply use the snd resources as sound
- records, by changing the header to conform with the Pascal data type. I
- should add that I have no connection with Farallon whatsoever, etc. etc.
- --David Herlihy
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: ring@cg-atla.UUCP (Steve Ring)
- Subject: Streamlining the System File
- Date: 14 Apr 88 17:59:16 GMT
- Organization: Compugraphic Corp., Wilmington, Mass
-
- Somewhere along the line, I received the September '87 Mackey
- newsletter (Volume 2, #9). In their discussion on ResEdit, ('Stripping
- the System", author - Ken Peterson, Portland Mac User Group), they
- mention that if you have a Mac+ (or 512E), then you use ResEdit to
- delete up to about 85K of unused and unnecessary Mac II/SE system
- resources that are obviously not required when one has a Mac+. They
- suggest a partial list from 4.1 system file as follows:
-
- Type ID Size Why Comments
- ____ __ ____ ___________ ________
- cicn 31 906 Mac II only Special Mac II icon
- DRVR 9 3282 in ROM .MPP AppleTalk driver
- DRVR 10 2404 in ROM .ATP AppleTalk driver
- PACK 12 9792 Mac II only Color Picker
- PTCH 376 12004 Mac II only Patch for II roms
- snd all 21471 Mac II only Startup sounds
- SNTH all 7380 Mac II only sound synthesizer(?)
-
-
- My question then is this list still valid?, Has anyone else done this?,
- what is the new list (with system 4.2)?, can us Mac+ users still delete
- Mac SE & Mac II resources that we obviously don't need in our system
- file? How do we now go about deleting these resources? The 85K I can
- save on an 800k disk, might give me room for more fonts, applications,
- etc. I don't have a hard disk yet. I haven't seem much discussion about
- this - probably cause most people have hard disks. Any help would be
- appreciated.
-
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- ...!{decvax,ima,ism780c,ulowell,laidbak,cgeuro,cg-f}!cg-atla!ring
- Steve Ring
- CompuGraphic Corp.
- Wilmington, Mass., 01887, (617) 658-5600, x5092
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- From: merchant@eleazar.Dartmouth.EDU (Peter Merchant)
- Subject: Ending a DA
- Date: 14 Apr 88 20:01:34 GMT
- Organization: U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, Kings Point, NY
-
- I'm writing a DA which will present a modal dialog box to the user.
- When the person has clicked the OK button, I want the DA to close. How
- can I get the Desk Manager to close the DA, or how would I go about
- closing it myself? --- "You read my mind..." Peter
- Merchant (merchant@eleazar.UUCP)
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